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  • HPH255 : How do you specify high performance windows? – with Chris Herring

    HPH255 : How do you specify high performance windows? – with Chris Herring

    Chris Herring, Director at Green Building Store, explains why careful consideration should be given when specifying windows.

    Interview with Chris Herring

    With a father who was a keen environmentalist, Chris was raised with an awareness of ecological issues from a young age. A builder by trade he has been in the industry since the 1980s and is now a director at Green Building Store.

    Windows aren’t just another building element, they’re a critical one

    Chris emphasises how important it is to get the right windows on a building project. They matter to the feel of the house and how we feel in the house.

    They have physical and architectural functions, they’re part of the fabric and the thermal performance, there are safety issues in that you need to be able to get out of them, they might have to protect against fire, and obviously let light in.

    When it comes to specifying windows and bringing all that together, many of those functions can actually be in conflict with one another. Often it can be a case of finding the best compromise.

    Manufacturers and suppliers should be part of the design process

    With components and performance levels in buildings becoming more complex, Chris would like to see manufacturers and suppliers becoming more part of the team. They can bring their expertise at an earlier point and be more involved in helping to specify the right windows for the job.

    Triple glazing as standard

    Chris says that with a little more attention to detail and extra skill, a building can, and should, be made considerably better. With the thermal envelope key to the performance of the building, triple glazing should be standard in the UK climate to make it work.

    “So, we need triple glazing because the Passivhaus Standard drives us there, and it drives us there because the building physics drives us there. The key to that is, in many ways, comfort, because we need every surface to be warm. Because then we don’t need to heat the building very much. As soon as you get a cold spot, you’re going to get mould, you’re going to get discomfort, you’ve got down-drafting, you’ve got all these problems. So, the system stops working. So, it’s the building as part of the system that drives us to triple glazing in this climate.”

    Determine the energy balance

    There is more energy loss from windows than any other part of the fabric of a building. Their thermal transmission will always be a weak point, but they do also bring solar heat into the building. That energy balance between the gain and the losses is what’s so significant with windows.

    Being around 10-15% of the area of the building, they typically make up a disproportionate amount (roughly 30%) of the losses.

    If you’re north facing you have no significant energy balance. It’s just a loss so the logic then would be to have small windows.

    With a Passivhaus, it’s about looking at how to get the best balance between those window heat losses and gains, and typically they’re approximately in balance, so are neutral in their effect.

    Understand their performance

    Chris thinks it’s worth taking time to understand a little bit about these values so you can understand more about the performance, rather than just being led by someone else.

    U-value: the heat loss through the piece of glass – measured as the heat loss per metre squared per degree kelvin difference between inside and outside. So, watts per metre squared K (W/m2K).

    A measurement can also be taken for the heat loss through the window frame (usually worse than through the glass).

    The Psi-value is the heat that is lost through the edge of the glass where it meets the frame. That is measured as a heat loss per metre perimeter of glass.

    Those three factors, the frame value, the glass value and the Psi value, are added together to give the U-value of the total window.

    Each window will have a different U-value so they are all modelled separately in PHPP.

    G-value: this is the measurement of how much solar gain actually gets through the glass. The more panes and coatings there are, the more you restrict the amount of sun that can get through.

    In a triple-glazed window it would likely be in the 50-60% range. In double-glazed it might be around 70%, and in single-glazed closer to 80-90%.

    Lambda-values: this relates to thermal conductivity. It applies to every material and is actually the inherent quality of the material.

    “Obviously, if we take a piece of aluminium or a piece of expanded polystyrene, they’ve got very different amounts of thermal conductivity, the amount that heat can get through per metre thickness of that material. So, a λ-value is given as the heat loss, which is given in watts, per metre thickness of the material per degree difference between the inside and the outside. So, that’s watts per metre K (W/mK). So, the metre is the thickness of the material.

    It’s quite different from the U-value, which is about an area value, if you like; it’s per metre squared. And we’ll use that thermal conductivity to then calculate the U-value.”

    PHPP calculates the U-value

    Chris explains that PHPP has a standard calculation which takes the heat loss from the glass, the heat loss from the edge of the glass and the heat loss from the frame, and adds them together. It calculates the total heat loss and gives the U-value of the window.

    PHPP also builds in the Psi-value for the installation, which is given as the heat loss per metre perimeter of the window. To get the installed value for the window, that heat loss is added to the total heat loss of the window. The calculation shows how important it is that the window is installed properly, and the implications for if it’s not. A triple-glazed window installed badly for example, could effectively end up with the performance of a double-glazed unit.

    “So, that detailing is incredibly important and something people struggle with and architects struggle with.

    Coming back to what the suppliers and manufacturers offer, I think this extra value of supporting people further, supporting architects, supporting clients, is actually critical. I think it will become more and more important for suppliers to add those extra values to supply. It’s not just a widget that’s somebody else’s problem how they fit it, the supplier should be going further down the chain and advising people how to fit it and helping them to get that detailing right.”

    Understand risks of overheating

    While PHPP gives an idea of overheating across the whole building, it doesn’t differentiate by room. Understanding some of the causes can be helpful. A full height window for example, while perhaps desired architecturally, won’t increase the light level a great deal because you’re only lighting quite a small area (it’s higher light that has more effect in terms of lighting the building). However, it will result in increased overheating because it’s still heating the floor up fairly close to the window, and that’s heating the room up.

    Trying to get round that by using shading would need a much bigger overhang to fully shade the window, which is probably unlikely to be used. So in that case, although the overhang can be shading the top half of the window, the bottom half going down to the floor is not shaded and will result in overheating.

    Something else to bear in mind is that a window above 800mm from the floor doesn’t require safety glazing, which can make considerable cost savings.

    Timber-clad windows are recommended

    Green Building Store made the decision some years ago that triple glazed would be the only window they would offer, but there are different types of cladding. They don’t engage very much in the conversation around uPVC windows because the evidence they’ve seen shows how environmentally damaging they are.

    There are also questions around the environmental impact of aluminium clad windows. The energy use in smelting and even recycling aluminium is quite high.

    “We’ve always tended to encourage people to go to non-aluminium clad windows because we think that the evidence seems to show that it lowers the environmental impact of the window. We have bowed to demand, if you like, and now offer aluminium clad as well.”

    Timber windows do need painting every 10 years and adding up that expense will probably make it similar to the cost of aluminium cladding. But what most suppliers won’t tell you is that the aluminium cladding will fade over time and you will likely lose the appearance within 20 or 30 years.

    “If people come to us and ask for aluminium clad, we’ll give them aluminium clad. If they want to discuss the issues then we’ll certainly discuss that with them. And we do outline some of that information on our website as well, so that people can think about those issues.”

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  • HPH193 : Should you specify uPVC windows? – with Simon Corbey from ASBP

    HPH193 : Should you specify uPVC windows? – with Simon Corbey from ASBP

    Simon Corbey from ASBP shares some of his research into the costs and life cycle of plastic windows and suggests some considerations for self-builders.

    Interview with Simon Corbey

    Simon Corbey worked as a chartered surveyor in the ‘90s, and went on to become a specialist in natural paints for London’s first eco builders’ merchant, Construction Resources. He has also worked for BioRegional, the Sustainable Development Foundation, the Good Homes Alliance and the Alliance for Sustainable Building Products (ASBP). Last time we spoke to Simon, he talked to us about healthy building products.

    We should question the chemicals in uPVC

    Simon Corbey has been working on behalf of the ASBP to compare plastic and timber windows. Consumers tend to be more concerned with how windows will look and last than where plastic comes from and the issues around it. Simon remarks that plastic windows are manufactured widely in the UK, but these impacts are not really considered, adding, “I do think that there’s an opportunity for the UK to develop their building physics and approaches to making windows.”

    Simon notes that plastic windows appeal, as they are generally cheaper and available in a range of styles. He describes the marketing as aggressive, adding, “It’s well funded, of course. It’s the petrochemical industry.” Plastic windows contain a range of chemicals but no research has suggested a negative effect on indoor air quality. The window itself may be benign, but Simon has also been researching product manufacture and life cycle.

    Manufacturing chlorine is hugely energy intensive

    Simon explains that uPVC (unplasticized polyvinyl chloride) contains chlorine. Used in swimming pools and our water supply, it’s common enough to not raise concern. However, he explains that its manufacture has an incredible impact on the environment.

    Simon estimates that producing 80% of the UK’s chlorine uses more electricity than Liverpool. Production of PVC in Europe in 2015 used 8.6 million tonnes of chlorine. “So it’s hugely energy intensive,” says Simon, adding, “From a life cycle analysis it’s a terrible, terrible thing.”

    Simon’s research shows the hidden costs of uPVC windows

    Simon has further researched Ineos, who produce most of the UK’s chlorine. Describing it as “a very murky world,” he says he feels motivated to bring this to people’s attention. The site of the Ineos plant in Cheshire is of particular concern. Simon describes how Ineos were caught dumping mercury into the Manchester Ship Canal in 2014 and the land contains a dump once used to “make everything from nuclear weapons to World War II stuff”.

    Previously owned by ICI, the dump was linked to toxic chemical leaching and reports of ill health in the early 2000s. Today, explains Simon, if you look at the Land Registry, this dump apparently has no owner. “There is a completely toxic dump just there which the council don’t own,” he says. “Ineos have somehow redrawn the lines of their site and conveniently they don’t own it any longer.”

    Timber windows struggle to compete on price and marketing

    Despite their significant environmental price, plastic windows remain cost effective for manufacturers. The price of oil and gas is still low, making the raw materials cheap. The process of gathering timber, processing, sawing and milling it is quite energy intensive in comparison and the end product is heavier to transport. All of this adds to cost.

    Simon further points out that the UK timber industry is quite fragmented, containing many different disparate interests. Conversely the plastics industry markets products with “one voice”, typified by slick campaigns, such as that for Everest windows. Moreover, Simon describes it as quite litigious, recalling a threat of court action when his former employer persuaded a Scottish Housing Association to cancel their order for plastic windows.

    Plastic windows may not outlast timber

    There is a perception that timber windows will rot, requiring repeated maintenance, while plastic is assumed to be tougher. Simon questions these preconceptions. While acknowledging that timber windows have a finite life cycle he points out that plastic windows are prone to yellowing after a while. Simon himself has 120-year-old timber windows, which are “going strong”. “They’re a bit leaky,” he says, “but they’re okay as far as I’m concerned.”

    Other options for window materials do exist. Simon recommends considering factors such as product life cycle and building location. Aluminium is very durable but highly energy intensive; composite timber and aluminium windows are one alternative.

    The quality of UK timber windows is improving

    Windows are an essential part of the building fabric’s performance. With improvements in building science, double glazed and triple glazed windows are appropriate for new builds and both plastic and timber windows can achieve Passivhaus Trust certification.

    Where good indoor air quality is maintained by natural ventilation, windows must function well, being easy to open and clean. There have been some issues of quality with some timber windows but Simon sees this improving, following the standard of European and Scandinavian manufacturers.

    Recycling plastic windows involves additional expense, chemicals and risks

    The Scottish Civic Trust suggests that the recycling rate for windows might be 3% and according to the Green Guide, BRE suggest that the UK average is about 15%. However, Simon suggests the many issues with recycling, such as the chemicals and risks involved, make that figure optimistic.

    The formulation of plastic has changed quite a lot since the ‘60s and the industry has made great attempts to clean itself up. Substances considered by REACH to be of very high concern, such as lead and cadmium, are being phased out although tiny quantities are still allowed.

    Plastic is worse than wooden windows in a fire

    Simon believes that toxicity is a huge issue. He confirms that plastic windows pose a greater risk than wooden ones in the event of a fire and believes that more research is needed. However, currently all the testing institutes are very busy “as a result of Grenfell”.

    Simon notes that in the USA, The Healthy Building Network has liaised with the Fire & Safety community to argue for a complete halt to use of plastic products. Likewise, the ASBP has initiated contact with Kent Fire and Rescue and the London Fire Brigade. As Simon explains, “there is some research underway but it’s early doors, I would suggest, this type of testing.”

    Industry and consumers are moving away from plastic

    Techniques and attitudes continue to change. Acetylated wood is an example where window science has improved. This process basically uses vinegar to extend the maintenance life of timber to over 60 years.

    Simon notes a growing interest in health and wellbeing, as well as a global campaign against plastics. He summarises, “I think at ASBP we’re trying to suggest that as a society we’ve just got to start using less plastic through and through, in all the things that we do and windows being one of those things.”

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