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  • HPH331 : What is a mechanical services engineer? – with Alan Clarke

    HPH331 : What is a mechanical services engineer? – with Alan Clarke

    Alan Clarke explains the role of a mechanical services engineer on a low energy house build, in designing a heating and ventilation system that works efficiently and is affordable.

    Interview with Alan Clarke

    We’ve been fortunate enough to have Alan Clarke on the podcast before. Back in episode HPH062 we discussed with him whether a Passivhaus needs a heating system. In a later episode, he also explained the designs for the heating, ventilation, and hot and cold water systems for Ben’s own self build.

    Today, we welcome him back to conclude our mini-series, looking at different professions that we may need on our self build or retrofit project. Alan is a mechanical services engineer, with particular expertise in Passivhaus buildings.

    Most mechanical services engineers will have a background in engineering

    A mechanical services engineer will cover the design of the heating and ventilation systems of a building. Some practices would also do M&E (mechanical and electrical) or MEP (mechanical engineering and public health) work, which would cover all of the building services. As well as the heating and ventilation, that will be the electrical services, drainage and plumbing too. The majority of people practicing it professionally would come from an engineering training background.

    Relevant parts of the building regulations are Part L and Part F

    Part L of the building regulations covers the energy of the house as a whole, including the heating system. An electrical installer would be expected to be qualified and understand how to install a system that is going to be in line with the wiring regulations and building regulations compliance. This might include energy modeling of the building too.

    Part F of the building regulations is to do with ventilation. Ventilation systems in houses are relatively new, and there isn’t quite the same level of qualification and supervision.

    Pre-planning is the ideal time to involve your mechanical services engineer

    Not all architects will be familiar with integrating a mechanical ventilation system so that it works efficiently and is easy to maintain. There would be some spacial requirements at Stage 3 of the RIBA Stage of Works, but pre planning is the ideal time for an engineer to come in and think about where the main items of equipment are going to be located, and how the distribution through the building will work. Consideration also needs to be given in the design to accommodate the ductwork, although the detailed design for that would come later. If it’s for a Passivhaus, there will also need to be PHPP energy modeling at this stage, before the planning application goes in. This will have an impact on the form of the building, window sizes, etc.

    It is important to make sure the overall system is efficient

    The energy efficiency of the overall system can be broken down into separate parts:

    • The MVHR unit – this must be an efficient piece of kit with good heat recovery efficiency and quiet, efficient fans. If the fans aren’t quiet, people won’t use it.
    • Good ductwork design – fan performance can be scuppered by putting in ducts that are too small, which means the fans have to work harder. They use more energy to run, and you get more noise. A good approach to the design of the ductwork is therefore important.

    A further consideration in the Passivhaus analysis is heat loss, looking at how long the ducts are, and also how well insulated they are. Ideally, these should be as short as possible, just one or two metres length, which has implications on where to position the MVHR.

    An MVHR unit also needs to have regular filter changes. Therefore, there’s no point putting it somewhere inaccessible, where you can’t see what you’re doing!

    There are two main ducting systems

    The basic principles of a balanced mechanical ventilation system, are to bring in and supply fresh air to the rooms where we spend the most time, and take out stale air, particularly from the smelliest and wettest parts of the building. The extracted air passes through the MVHR which has a heat exchanger. This transfers practically all the warmth from that extracted air to the incoming air. Ductwork connects the ventilation unit to the rooms in the house.

    A radial system uses lots of separate ducts that run to each room. If you want more air to go to or from a particular room then you run two ducts. Also, if it’s got a long way to go, you might increase the number of ducts to a distant room to make it easier to get air from there to the MVHR.

    The other system used is a branched system. You start with the biggest duct at the MVHR and run to the first room. At this terminal, it tees off to another room before branching off again, and so on. The duct size reduces as you go along.

    Generally, the radial system ducts will have a diameter of 75 or 90mm, which is easier to thread through than the branched system, but you do need more of them. The branched system starts off at around 150-160mm, before dropping down to 100mm for individual rooms.

    Space for the ducting will need to be allowed for in the structural and architectural design of the building, so it’s good to know what system is going to be used as early as possible.

    Air should be supplied into the rooms in a way that you don’t feel a draft

    For a flat ceiling, there would normally be a disc in the ceiling that spreads the air horizontally so that you don’t feel it blowing on you.

    The other type of supply valve is designed to go in a wall. This also spreads the air horizontally. The air flows are relatively small and mix with the room air quite quickly, meaning it’s unnoticeable to occupants.

    Around 2.5 litres of moisture is generated into the house per person per day

    This is produced in a number of ways, such as:

    • Breathing and perspiration – this accounts for around a fifth of the moisture that we put in the house
    • Bathing – not just the hot water steam but also the towel and bath mat will continue drying back out into the room too
    • Water evaporation from the dishwasher drying cycle
    • Cooking – such as steam from boiling water
    • Laundry – drying washing indoors can mean there are several kilos of moisture that have to go somewhere

    Without some way of extracting all this moisture, that’s a lot of water that is just sitting in our houses. It can however be extracted through ventilation. Even on a wet day, the water vapour content of the external air is relatively low, and much less than the air indoors. Simply by bringing it in and exhausting the same volume of inside air, you can expel the water vapour.

    Part F of the building regulations has guidance for calculating the ventilation flow rate that’s needed. This is inferred from the number of bedrooms. A Passivhaus calculation is more specific and done on a per person basis.

    It is more efficient to run the ventilation constantly

    Many houses in the UK have intermittent extract fans, which just draw the vapour out when you have a bath or shower. Evidence shows however that this isn’t effective in reducing humidity levels enough, leading to condensation and mould potential.

    A house with an MVHR does focus on the wet areas, but has the ventilation running all of the time. There’s not much to be gained by turning it off, as you’re not losing any heat through it. Keeping the low power fans running continuously, rather than being off and then having to work hard for a while, is more energy efficient.

    The primary benefit is to our health

    Through living in an enclosed space, we generate a number of pollutants, some of which are a side effect of the moisture. The condensation and mould can be extremely detrimental to our health. Even at lower humidity levels dust mites can prevail, causing allergic reactions and asthma.

    By ventilating a building we can also dilute and remove the VOCs and chemicals in the air that inevitably come out of the products.

    Heat pump systems need to be designed carefully

    Traditionally, a gas boiler with radiators has been a fairly resilient system for heating. Also, it’s one which doesn’t need too much oversight from an installer or heating engineer.

    Although a Passivhaus only requires a small amount of heat, this will need to be delivered somehow. Alan commonly specifies heat pumps these days, however, he stresses that they must be designed and installed well.

    Put a hot water cylinder where you are going to be using your hot water

    It sounds obvious but is an important consideration. Positioning the cylinder centrally to where the hot water will be needed in the kitchen and bathrooms, means that you can have shorter pipe runs. Subsequently, there will be less heat lost through the pipes, and the hot water will reach the taps more quickly.

    Most of a mechanical services engineer’s work is before construction

    A typical day for a mechanical services engineer might involve:

    • A discussion with the client to understand their requirements and how they might live in their house
    • A review of architect’s designs
    • Planning the building services, distribution, emitters, ventilation terminals and key bits of plant on the layout drawings
    • Drawing up a specification. This is the shopping list for the contractors for the equipment needed. Also, it’s the particular requirements for the installation, workmanship and commissioning
    • Working on the drawings/revisions – looking at where ventilation and hot water kit will go, positioning a heat pump, and considering any constraints around where that might go

    When a client is building a house for the first time, the plans can sometimes evolve later in the process as they think more about what they really want. Ideally you should be executing the plans you have developed in the design stage during the construction stage, not altering them. This will make it harder for the whole team and more expensive for you.

    Your mechanical services engineer needs to understand your priorities

    They should listen and understand what their brief is. It’s not helpful to have someone come in with preconceived ideas of a technically complicated piece of engineering, when the client just wanted something simple. It’s a waste of their time and money.

    Ideally, you also want your engineer to have enough experience to be able to look back on other projects to see what has and hasn’t worked well.

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  • HPH059 : What Qualities Should an MVHR System Bring to a Low Energy Building? – with Andrew Farr from Green Building Store

    Andrew Farr from Green Building Store explains what qualities mechanical ventilation with heat recovery (MVHR) should bring to a house. He also shares how to make sure you get a system that is properly designed, installed and commissioned.

    Andrew Farr

     

    Interview with Andrew Farr

    Andrew Farr’s background is a mixture of mechanical engineering and building work, having done multi-material fabrication for a number of years. When Chris Herring, the founder of the Green Building Store, was developing their Mechanical Ventilation Heat Recovery Department he invited Andrew to join them as they had previously worked together on various building projects and as Andrew is a fluent German speaker.

     

    HRV and MVHR are the Same Thing

    HRV (Heat Recovery Ventilation) and MVHR (Mechanical Ventilation with Heat Recovery) refer to one and the same thing. Andrew clarifies that there are various other acronyms out there, but the broad idea is that you are ventilating and recovering the heat energy out of the ventilation air.

     

    In a Balanced Ventilation System the Same Quantity of Air is Supplied as is Extracted

    An MVHR system can be a pragmatic way of delivering very good air quality into a building. The Air Handling Unit (AHU) or the Mechanical Heat Recovery device of the MVHR system draws air into the building from the outside, filters it, takes it through a heat exchanger and supplies the clean air into the habitable spaces of the house, usually bedrooms, living rooms, studies etc. A completely separate ducting system extracts air out of the foul air rooms (toilets, bathrooms, kitchens etc.) through the other side of the same heat exchanger and exhausts it out of the building. This enables a balanced ventilation system where you are supplying exactly the same quantity of air into the building as you are extracting out of it.

    MVHR systems may not be essential for every project, however, they are recommended for very airtight buildings with an airtightness of 3ach @50pascals or lower. For an MVHR system to be energy and cost effective, the airtightness of the house should be below 1ach.

     

    Getting the Design of the MVHR System Right – Sound Thresholds and Air Flow Rates

    The criteria set out for MVHR design by Building Regulations and Code for Sustainable Homes in the UK are primarily intended to create an energy efficient system. This has led to a common occurrence of noisy MVHR systems in the mainstream building industry owing to their poor design.

    Andrew argues that in the case of a house, the primary criteria should be comfort and good air quality. A well designed MVHR System does not impact on the consciousness of the people who are living in that building. It should not be the first thing you notice when you walk in, nor the last thing that you notice when you’re going to sleep.

    To achieve this, the main criteria of the design should be to deliver an inaudible – in everyday activity – ventilation system which generates less than 24 dBA of sound at a distance of more than one meter away from the air valve (The human threshold of hearing is somewhere around 24 to 27 dBA). With the amount of noise that the ventilation unit is going to create, the location of the MVHR unit itself is also crucial. Positioning the MVHR unit close to the kitchens and bathrooms, where people are used to hearing noise, is more suitable than locating it close to a bedroom.

    Another important criteria is to deliver exactly the right amount of air into the building. Over ventilating will tend to dehumidify the air in winter and also use excess energy. While under ventilating will result in unpleasant odours and humidity remaining in the building.

     

    The Traits of a Good MVHR Unit

    Green Building Store has the franchise for selling PAUL Ventilation units (PAUL is a German company) which they believe are some of the very best on the market as they are very well manufactured. The ventilation unit itself emits a relatively low frequency which doesn’t travel as well through walls, as compared with other units. The fan has a constant volume function to continually deliver exactly the same amount of air through both sides of the heat exchanger – as set up at the time of commissioning. This is extremely important, as during the yearly cycle of a ventilation unit there are various things that happen which change the resistance to the air moving through both the intake and the exhaust ducting systems.

    One of the major influences on the performance of the MVHR system are the filters on the ventilation unit. A filter on the intake prior to the heat exchanger protects the heat exchanger from the very fine debris that can be drawn into the air stream. There is also a filter on the extract prior to the heat exchanger. These filters will get dirty and provide resistance to the air-flow at different rates depending on what the pollution load is. In the case of a house being situated close to a main road, carbon particulates will block up the very fine filters resulting in the intake filter becoming dirtier sooner than the extract filter. To maintain a balance between both air-flows, the fans will increase their effort against the filter resistance in order to maintain the same volumes of air. Thus having a fan with a constant volume function is very crucial to maintaining the heat recovery efficiency of the ventilation unit.

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    Maintaining the Efficiency of the MVHR System

    Modern ventilation units are very similar in their tested performance (the one against which they will be certified). However, there is a very real difference between the unit’s individual tested performance and that of its performance embedded in the building. The efficiency of the MVHR system depends on two important factors:

    1. maintaining the balance between the two air flows, and
    2. the design of the ducting associated with the MVHR system

    If the resistance to the air moving through the ducting system is high, then the fans will have to exert a lot of effort in order to move the air. Consequently they will make more noise and use more energy, which in turn will cost more. The energy efficiency of the MVHR system is the efficiency of the whole system, including the ducting and everything associated with it, and not just on the efficiency of the MVHR unit alone.

     

    Round and Rigid Ducting Works Best

    The most important criteria when considering what type of ducting to use is which type of ducting will allow the air to move through most easily and offer the least resistance. Round ducting is the most efficient in this case, as it offers the best surface area to volume ratio – the surface area is smaller than the volume of air. Rigid ducting is sealed by design, not by the addition of mastics and tapes as in the case of flexible ducting and is less likely to fail.

     

    Invest in a Well-designed MVHR System from the Get Go

    The design of the ducting system should be of paramount importance in order to deliver a ducting system that you will want to live with. Ducting systems should be designed to reduce pressure loss and to attenuate the associated sound. If it is not designed properly and especially in larger houses, some air valves could end up being very noisy because they’ve got too much pressure on them, and in other rooms the air valves are not getting sufficient air out of them. A well designed system with rigid ducting and appropriate sound attenuation however will come at a premium cost. Rather than going for a cheaper poorly designed system, Andrew’s advice is to invest in a well-designed system from the outset that won’t have to be replaced after a year.

     

    Quality of MVHR Design Currently in the UK

    Up until now the industry has seen experienced commercial mechanical and electrical installers bringing their knowledge from commercial spaces into domestic MVHR installations, where the requirements for sound are not the same.

    In an office, you probably won’t notice a bit of fan noise in the room because you’re busy, there are computers on or you are talking to people. But when you’re at home and you’re working on your desktop PC, the running fans and hard drive generate such a constant background noise, that when you turn it off, you realise the blissful peace that follows.

    According to Andrew, an MVHR system should be giving you this blissful peace all the time despite the fact that it’s running, and if it’s not, then it’s not designed to quality. Andrew believes that in the next few years the quality of delivery of MVHR systems in the UK will improve and that more people are now beginning to understand what the appropriate criteria for MVHR design in domestic buildings is.

     

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